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Demolitions: Don’t Pay Money; Make Money

October 7, 2013 by Jenna

Every successful business person knows to solicit multiple bids from contractors. (Need help finding good contractors?) You do this to find the market price of services and to feel out the knowledge and competency of your potential help.

I’m no fool. I did the same thing with my triplex once I had a comprehensive repair list. The various estimates for my carport demolition surprised me though. They ranged from $1,000-2,500.

 

PSHH!

(if you don’t know what that means, please consultant urbandictionary)

 

We decided to complete the carport demolition ourselves, and it was one of the best decisions we’ve made so far. Granted, the demolition was spread out over several weeknights, and a contractor could have had the job finished in a day. We were perfectly ok with the delay though. The carport demolition wasn’t preventing us from renting out any units.

The best part: instead of paying a contractor over a thousand dollars, we ended up coming out ahead!

The first thing we did was throw a crowbar party! Four of my macho friends came out and competed to see who could take down the most boards as fast as possible. In retrospect, I could have charged a dollar a sledgehammer hit since they were all so amped to be the first one to take down a support beam.

Don’t believe me? Check this guy out 

After the wood was stacked, I posted an ad on craigslist for reclaimed wood. I offered it for free, and I had quite a few craftsmen come out and take a load off of my hands. This saved me from hauling debris and paying dumping fees.

The roof of the carport was made of corrugated aluminum. I also posted this on craigslist asking for people to make offers on the 26 sheets that I had. One person made an offer of $4 a sheet, if it was trailer-ready when he got there. I responded with a lower offer of $3 a sheet—with the understanding that he would be responsible for disassembling the aluminum. I also threw in an offer for free reclaimed wood, should he be interested.

Within 24 hours of him accepting my offer, the debris was gone and I was $78 richer!

 

Pros:

  • I saved money
  • I made money
  • I helped prevent debris from going into a landfill
  • I helped others find affordable materials for their projects

Cons:

  • It took longer than if I had hired a contractor
  • I had to coordinate many moving parts

 

Would I do it again? I saved money. I made money, and I had fun. You bet I would!

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Hiring Contractors on Craigslist

September 27, 2013 by Jenna

Kevin recently posted an interesting article about How to Find Good Contractors. I have to agree with him; networking with other landlords is the best way to find good contractors. Sometimes, these contractors think like investors. This can be helpful if you’re new to the game, like me.

We have already established that contracting cheap is not worth it for serious repairs: electrical, gas or plumbing.

My triplex needs a lot of miscellaneous work though. I need to repair the trim on doors, replace a cellar door, craft kitchen floor boards, and replace random pieces of exterior wood. This is in addition to the debris remaining from our carport demolition.

These repairs don’t require a lot of skill, but they do require time. So, it’s time for me to find some hired help. Where does a frugal, novice landlord turn?

Craigslist.

Looking for contractors on Craigslist can be efficient and cost-effective. Many people make their entire living off of Craigslist. I guarantee that you can find someone willing to do the work for the price you’re willing to pay. It’s not all flowers and sunshine though. There are just as many dishonest and unqualified people out there trying to make a dime. Here are a few rules to follow when using Craigslist to hire contractors.

  1. Do not post your phone number, email address or property address on your Craigslist post. You’re trying to save time by hiring help. Don’t waste it away answering questions to no avail.
  2. Itemize each repair requested in your post. Post pictures to reference repairs if you can. Transparency allows people to offer honest bids for the work.
  3. Sign a name to your post, but only a first name. You don’t want them to be able to look your property up if they know it’s vacant, right? *Ladies, I don’t sign my name. I use my boyfriend, Eric’s. It makes me feel less vulnerable, and Eric will most likely be on-site directing them anyway.
  4. Do not provide any information beyond what is needed. This is especially important when you’re issuing multiple posts. People who work off of Craigslist can easily piece together your information based on your signature or pictures. I posted once that I had recently purchased a truck. Someone responding to an unrelated post mentioned it. Watch out.
  5. Provide people with specific instructions to follow when responding to your post. Ask that they itemize their bid for each repair requested. At a minimum, I ask that people respond with their first and last name, phone number, whether or not I can text them, and their itemized bids. If they don’t follow directions when responding, rule them out!
  6. Call your Craigslist respondents. Ask them questions like what vehicle they drive and what tools they plan on bringing to the job. You may want to tell them you’ll call them back after speaking with the other potentials. Be discerning.
  7. If they don’t arrive at the agreed upon time, cancel and start over again. Craigslist is less dependable than Kevin’s recommendations, but it can be worth it. I get better deals when people blind bid for the work.
  8. After the work has been completed, pay the agreed upon price. Only pay your contractor for the work that has been finished. If you ask your respondents to itemize their bids, this step will be easy.

I rank my respondents based on their email professionalism and bid amounts. Good indicators are people who sell themselves a bit, people who respond with a business name and people who respond with a picture of their truck, trailer or tools. As Kevin said though, follow your gut. Be guarded with your personal information and property until you have developed a working relationship.

I will concede that buying, selling, and hiring help off of Craigslist takes time and patience. I’m a beginning investor though; all I have is time and patience.

I’m building a Rolodex from the ground up.

 

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